VPN Leaks: List of fishy ‘no logs’ VPN providers
Please contribute to this list if you know more suspect VPN services.
How has PIA been in recent years? I used to really like them when I had a commercial vpn.
Does these even matter? We know HMA is shit VPN and they still growing up day to day, no mather what people say, noone out here or just a small % off people really care about their data. In 10 years or 20/30/50/100 when something bad happens globaly, people will care about it but will be too late.
I would also add to these list more VPNs but just based on my suspects for example BolehVPN, in my opinion(i have no proofs) they are not even legal with their ToS cause they have advertises off known Newspaper in firstpage thath has no sense to put there in their page.
Call me paranoid, but i prefer to buy a Ukranian VPS and put openvpn inside and setup my own, even if hosting provider can check what im doing/ can sell my data. I think is pretty more Private than just using a VPN.
VPN are good for some things, maybe there where better before, now with these internet control by goverments, i dont think so 1 VPN is legit. Cause for them:
" Is x10 times more worth to keep logs than dont, easy example: I commit crimes with my VPN, FBI goes to my vpn provider for ask for my info, if they dont have cause they keep 0 logs, instead off going for me, FBI would go against thath vpn provider thath is helping to commit crimes"
why wouldn’t letter agencies just own most/all of the vpns? they’d be silly not to. they can still claim to not openly take logs, but information can be used in parallel construction.
IMPORTANT EDIT: I’d like to bring attention to a response from /u/Youknowimtheman about my characterization of AirVPN’s practices (emphasis added). This is important because I don’t want to mischaracterize AirVPN’s operations. I am still uncomfortable with AirVPN, and the fact that they make live usage information available over the Web, but a clarification is clearly needed.
The privacy community has a convoluted relationship with logging.
Real time statistics are not logging if the data is not retained.
We tend to take the most prudent approach possible and use a stripped version of Linux that only gives us the basic functionality that we need to operate. We try to disable / remove / break everything else. Even with this approach we can see real-time statistics about the network.
I wouldn’t be comfortable with live sensitive information coming to me in that manner, but in practice, this is not logging and if everything is being handled properly it is not a danger to the use
My original comment:
AirVPN claims they don’t log but users can get live data via the AirVPN website on bandwidth usage for their own active sessions. This means that AirVPN logs data, and at earliest discards those logs after a session’s completion, which may be too late for some. It’s also clearly not a no-logging company, which they claim to be.
There was one that from panama but they added a facebook script to their websites sign up or login page.
Their mobile client is also packed with affiliates.
ALL OF THEM
Seriously. This is a bad idea as it implies there are legit “no log” VPN services which people can entrust their freedom to. It simply isn’t so. Assume they all log and act appropriately. No list needed.
I’ve been using them for about 3 years now and have not had any problems except with the proxy configs. Can’t test them anymore cuz I’m at 9/10 for my ISP and don’t want to risk it. Gonna go for it when I’m ready to “cancel” my contract.
That doesn’t mean they log. That is session data, every provider can see that data and that includes providers that don’t keep logs. That is why you are suppose to disconnect and reconnect from your VPN as much as possible to reset your session data. There is a difference between logs and live session data. That is considered monitoring, not logging since when you disconnect from the session the data isn’t stored in a log file.
Isn’t a “log” something you can go back to and look at to at a time later than the current time, though?
I normally wouldn’t consider this a log unless they’re held after the session.
Who is upvoting this? Other than VPN competitors? Either you don’t know what you’re talking about or are intentionally trying to mislead others about AirVPN.
Is there any actual zero logging VPN out there?
Why is it not possible for there to be no log VPN’s?
What are/were you using proxy configs for?
I’d like to ask reputable VPN providers if they agree with your assessment. /u/Youknowimtheman, what’s your take on the commentary from/u/NostalgicCloud and /u/burtonguster-, please?
I’ve edited the original comment.
Its absolutely possible, just impossible to prove.
VPNs are based on trust, and with the breaking of the trust here, a lot goes tumbling down. How can you trust any VPN if the only thing they can give is their word, and others have already broken theirs?
I suspect we’re entering the twilight years of VPNs with this whole thing.
You have completely missed the point.
I was using a SOCKS proxy in Deluge but I think my main issue was I got a new username/password for it and forgot to change it. Overall I’m happy with PIA.