There is no way proton is pushing the real user ip address info to RD. I just don’t believe this. I find it more believable that Proton has given RD all the external addresses to their servers so RD would know it’s a proton server - making them “cooperative”. There is no way proton is pushing them individual users real ip addresses. It would be the end to any vpn company that did this. They have a no logging architecture which seems to be audited by outside 3rd parties.
Where do you see that they share your IP?
Isn’t the goal of using a VPN that they are not showing your IP?
Anyway, I don’t think a VPN is needed.
Most of the VPNs he stated are subpar. MullVad, ProtonVPN, and iVPN are the only reliable options right now, having been audited and earning strong reputations within the industry.
Yes my apps are still working on all formats, but like you say strangely they have disappeared from playstore and apple store. So if the app does go wrong then it looks like it’s game over
There is absolutely no way for RD to determine or track if an account is connecting to RD using same network or not if they only have all external addresses to the VPNs servers. This is only and only possible if some user data that has information about the actual network one is using is shared.
You can believe anything, ultimately common sense suggests actual IP or some user data is definitely shared, and until I see concrete evidence to the contrary. the audit reports mean very little given the amount of time those have been manipulated using legitimate loopholes.
When using a VPN, whitelisted or not every device regardless of if they are connected to the same network should have different IP. Yet RD when using the service of a whitelisted VPN easily idenfies if multiple devices using RD + VPN belong to the same network or not. This should be impossible unless the whitelisted VPN has agreed to share the actual IP or some user data to RD.
This happens between RD and whitelisted VPN, so how is one supposed to see this? It’s just a logical conclusion.
Also RD literally classifies VPN as Cooperative and non Cooperative, what do you think the cooperation is all about?
Yes to the ISP your IP will be different, for RD too. It’s just that with Cooperative VPN that are whitelisted, the VPNs has to provide RD the actual IP or something similar that let’s RD track that no account has connected to RD at the same time using different network. So it’s not really achieving the purpose.
Until I see someone get a notice that has all devices pointing to the same proton server I won’t believe this is an issue. There is no vpn provider on the planet that will share information like this. I’ll be the first to post it if it ever happened to me. I do have the vpn config loaded directly on my router and my parents router so I guess time will tell lol
Makes sense. Thanks for taking time to explain. That’s a shitty situation for the end user, tbh.
All I’m saying is there is no way RD can differentiate if devices are connected to the same network unless Whitelisted VPN shares some information with RD. There is no clear explanation i have found how RD & Whitelisted VPN cooperate. If you don’t choose to believe it, id appreciate if you can contact a VPN provider you trust that is Whitelisted and get an explanation.
It is, or one can shift to services like torbox or any of the debrid services that do not impose any IP based restrictions. Then none of them come close to the cache content available with RD.
I agree with you. I’m going to put a ticket into proton to understand what “cooperation” means. I have a feeling people are using the app on say a firestick and having it “connect to best server” vs locking it down to a specific one. But who knows.
I got this from Proton
Hi,
This is a follow-up message.
Upon checking with our team, I can confirm that we are not affiliated with the Real-debrid service, therefore, we can not comment on their practices. For more information regarding this, I recommend reaching out to them directly.
Feel free to let me know if anything else is needed.
Have a nice day!
Kind regards,
Customer Support
Proton VPN
So is mullvad white listed? Cuz i cant imagine them sharing our ip
If they are whitelisted they definitely share some user information that let’s RD keep track of whether anyone using VPN is connected to the same network or not, this itself is enough to question if VPNs that are whitelisted actually maintain privacy.
Check the list on Real-Debrid: All-in-one solution
I just saw the list. First, I wanna say that mullvad has 0 information of mine except for the IP, cuz there is no account creation, and you can fully anonymously pay for the subscription.
And there is no way that mullvad shares my IP with real debrid, I just refuse to believe it. Especially when mullvad is #1 in privacy. I might just contact them to see if this is indeed what they do.
Please share their reply with us as well.