How good is the idea of stacking two VPNs

I used HMA in the past and now my account has been suspended. I am looking for a new VPN solution and i am thinking about getting two VPN contracts and connection first to one and then to the other. HMA did not sell me out, just suspended my account. But this got me thinking… what if…

The idea is if i tunnel through a tunnel the inner tunnel would have to give up the information first before the second tunnel could be targetted and that tunnel could then still protect my privacy.

You may ask why stop there and I am thinking there has to be a domain expert here who can shed light on that idea as a whole.

The big story here is that HMA has sold out a user again
http://www.thewire.com/technology/2011/09/lulzsec-hacker-exposed-service-he-thought-would-hide-him/42895/

Yeah but why use a bad VPN like HMA first if you want to file share? If you’re trying to do file sharing, there’s plenty of VPNs (5 Eyes included) that will do just fine with no logs.

If you’re trying to avoid a 3 letter agency, then perhaps stacking VPNs could work, but once again a reminder to all that VPN isn’t for anonymity. There are other tools out there.

The logic is that if one VPN will give up your info, another one will too. That’s not gonna buy you much. You might as well just find one that’s the least likely to give up your info and be done with VPNs.

Why was your account suspended?

The most secure option would be IMO:
non-five-eyes VPN —> Tor Network —> Site

This is far superior to chaining two VPNs together. You’re going to take a speed hit, but if you’re not streaming video then it shouldn’t be too bad. For torrenting there is no need to chain VPNs at all. One good torrent-friendly VPN provider is more than enough.

You don’t need two providers to download torrents. Simply use a better provider.

Using two providers is good for someone doing shady shit, but to torrent it is a waste of time. Most people doing shady stuff use this set up.

VPN Router + PC Client VPN → Encrypted VM → Tor → Different VPN Provider → ETC

Don’t listen to this non five eyes shit as it doesn’t matter at all. If the US wants something it doesn’t matter the country the VPN providers based out of as long as the provider is trusted and doesn’t keep logs then they would have nothing to get from the provider anyway. There have been US based provider that haven’t given up any users (That we know of, if they did, i’m sure we would have heard) like PIA and one of the best VPN providers people use for doing shady shit is 14 eyes based.

I’ve done it. You have to reduce your max frame size on the inner VPN or you’ll get really bad performance.

Didn’t read the article yet. But at first glance, that’s bullshit!

The email contained this statement:

We have received a file sharing complaint and the date, time, and IP address provided match the date, time, and IP address your VPN account was in use. Illegal file sharing is against our terms of service and we cannot ignore breach of copyright complaints, as such we kindly ask you to stop sharing said files to comply with this request. Please note repeated offences may result in permanent suspension.

Why did I receive this complaint?
Anti-piracy companies automatically monitor public bit-torrent trackers usually for US IP addresses that are involved in illegally sharing copyrighted material. These companies then send a file sharing complaint to the underlying ISP behind the IP address, and this ISP then forwards the complaint on to us. We are legally required to forward on the complaint to the suspected customer.

How did you achieve this ?

Afraid not, it’s common knowledge.

How did they know its you if you had your VPN on?

What a shitty VPN provider. Go with one that at least claims not to log. Air VPN/PIA/Mulvad/Cryptostorm/TorGaurd these are all torrent friendly no-loggers.

I actually used a vm and ran a VPN on the host machine and one on the vm and did all of my stuff on the vm.

Exactly, unless they keep logs.

Ah ok I’ve also used vm’s, I also found this method to work well.