The privacy community has a convoluted relationship with logging.
Real time statistics are not logging if the data is not retained.
We tend to take the most prudent approach possible and use a stripped version of Linux that only gives us the basic functionality that we need to operate. We try to disable / remove / break everything else. Even with this approach we can see real-time statistics about the network.
I wouldn’t be comfortable with live sensitive information coming to me in that manner, but in practice, this is not logging and if everything is being handled properly it is not a danger to the user.
Edit: Because this blew up and a lot of people are reading it. AirVPN is one of the best in the industry. They take privacy and security very seriously and actively participate in the privacy community at large. This particular feature is something that users have asked us for in the past. Everything privacy related is on a spectrum, and AirVPN is still a very good choice.
I would like to also point out that even providers who don’t log can still catch people on their servers. Proxy.sh was caught monitoring (They don’t log and run their servers off ram i’m pretty sure) their servers with Wireshark years ago to catch some guy who was harassing a girl on Facebook. They didn’t even need to enable logs to catch the guy. They just monitored the server that was connected to the IP that the police gave them and caught the guy (Edit: Actually the guy gave himself up after the Reddit post blew up and every site started writing about them monitoring the server. That doesn’t change the point though that providers don’t need to log the server to catch people). That is why you are also suppose to switch up the servers you use and don’t connect to the same server over and over again to do stupid shit.
https://proxy.sh/panel/announcements/79/When-neophytes-are-wrong-and-what-they-unleash.html
The original Reddit post that started the whole thing that sites like Torrentfreak and others used to write about it
https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/1nctsm/proxysh_monitoring_servers_with_wireshark/
How can you trust any VPN if the only thing they can give is their word, and others have already broken theirs?
Find a case where they’ve had to prove they don’t.
Using a proxy doesn’t actually hide what you’re torrenting from your isp does it? You need the actual vpn running for encryption. That’s probably why you are on 9/10
There was a case like that for PIA and they didn’t/ couldn’t produce any logs
You can’t prove it. Even if they didn’t have for that case and moment in time they can later on. In the end it’s all about trust, not facts.
According to Snowden Germany is part of the 14 eyes cooperative that would lead to the NSA sharing data with German intelligence.
parallel construction and intel gathering, my friend. this isnt necessarily about evidence in some court of law. and furthermore, the OPs comment was referencing american agencies and citizens and specifically the practice of parallel construction, if unclear.
Sure, I GUESS. In the same way I can’t PROVE someone isn’t a murderer as they haven’t killed anybody yet.